A conversation between Judith Adler and Craig Leonard. "Judith Adler is the author of Artists in Offices: An Ethnography of an Academic Art Scene, a study of the academicization of art practices based on her fieldwork carried out at California Institute of the Arts between 1970 and 1972. From its inception, Cal Art’s mission was to provide innovative arts pedagogy, and included such faculty as John Baldessari, Judy Chicago, Allan Kaprow, Nam June Paik, Charlemagne Palestine, Mel Powell and Miriam Schapiro. The strength of Adler’s research is in her astute analysis of the paradoxes of artists working within institutions. Published in 1979, the insights and predictions of Artists in Offices remain relevant forty years later. Craig Leonard contacted Judith Adler, who has been teaching in the Department of Sociology at Memorial University for over forty years, to discuss Artists in Offices and to explore its applicability to the present." -exmediastudio